------ Forwarded Message ------ From: "Jon Heppell" <[email protected]> To: "Anna Ridley" <[email protected]> Sent: 27/01/2023 11:54:28 AM Subject: FYI: Mary Bishop (née Davis). Housekeeper, 1800 ~ 1810. Greetings Anna, For your information ..... recent correspondence with Rod Holman re OGH housekeeper Mary Bishop (née Davis). Does this meet [belatedly] your expectations pursuant to our discussions of 3 years back ? Awaiting your advice, cheers, Jon. Rod @ OGH 11:12am, 18 Jan Hello Jon, I'm Rod Holman, from the Hill End Gathering Group and volunteer at Old Government House. You send me the bio you'd done on the first housekeeper, Mary Bishop, a few years ago. The Parramatta staff and Head Office at the National Trust are keen to develop stories about the ordinary people that worked the site and House, for future reference and aid in presentation to promote grants. Are you able to release it to me so I can pass it on to the Parramatta Manager and share the fabulous story ? It wont be for publication but excerpts may appear in the National Trust magazine as a part of an article on the early residents of the House. With thanks, Rod 0419 638 038 ------ Original Message ------ From "Jon Heppell" <[email protected]> To "Rod Holman" <[email protected]> Date 24/01/2023 8:47:31 PM Subject Mary Bishop (née Davis). Housekeeper, 1800 ~ 1810. Greetings Rod, longer than you think, we last conversed just on 10 years ago . Obviously, we've both been having fun . In the meantime, in 2020 Gail and I enjoyed a personal tour of the "Women of Distinction" project with Anna Ridley and this very topic came up. It was determined that neither "Mary Bishop X her mark" bio or "The Mysterious Mrs Bishop" presentation were the best sources, and that a more OGH focussed narrative would be more appropriate. Although I had already commenced that work, Covid, and life, got in the way. Your message inspired me to complete the work, ( which is now attached for your consideration, and remission to the appropriate persons. All that I ask is the opportunity to proof read and comment on any synopsis or adaptation that may be considered for publication, prior to publication. I also request that the source material and background link to bishopsinoz.weebly.com be published with it. This will achieve our ultimate aim, which is not kudos, rather at least a partial correction of the widespread misinformation about the Bishop Family found universally amongst the various internet based genealogy platforms. On that proviso, consider it released. I wasn't aware of your connection with Hill End. Perhaps you attended Hill End 150 celebration ? If so, we missed each other. We had a buzz, in spite of the weather. Happy volunteering, Cheers Jon ------ Forwarded Message ------ From: "Rodney Holman" <[email protected]> To: "Jon Heppell" <[email protected]> Sent: 26/01/2023 8:59:25 AM Subject: Re: Mary Bishop (née Davis). Housekeeper, 1800 ~ 1810. Hell Jon, Thank you for getting back to me and for the pdf copy. Wow , its been 10 years. I've just got my 10 year service certificate so I must've been there that long when we meet at the House. At this time Mary's story will be securely filed for future reference and we'll be in contact with you when it's info is used in the future. The planned article done by the National Trust head office about residents of Old Government House has been written using other stories and material . I didn't attend the Hill End 150 event. My Great Grandfather was a miner there and later involved with the Cobb & Co business. Happy Australia Day, Regards and thank you again, Rod Holman. [email protected] Jonathan Heppell
Founding Member · November 20 2019 at 12:16 AM Facebook Group ~ FFF: discussion re omission of Mary Bishop from OGH Parramatta Women of Distinction exhibition. Amanda Hoppitt But what do they classify as significant? That could explain her omission.
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Founding Member · March 18 at 3:45 PM Recent discussion with fellow researcher Gil Langfield re the trial, conviction and reprieve of Mary Davis…. [Gil] … I spent some time in the Shropshire Record Office in 2007 ( and also at Kew) looking for the trial and prison documents of Mary Davies/Bishop. I made the following notes: From the Shrewsbury Chronicle of Saturday 19 March 1785, page 3 ........ At our Assizes, which ended on Wednesday night last [16 March] . . . . The nine following persons were also capitally convicted and received sentence of death, viz. William Williams for burglariously stealing one hundred and thirty pounds, and upwards, the property of Mr Edward Jeffreys; Edward Edwards, for burglariously stealing a considerable sum of money, the Property of Robert Pemberton Esq.; Sarah Davies for house-breaking; William Griffiths, for stealing a black mare; Mary Davies, Richard Playfield, Roger Phyfield, Mary Boulton alias Bolton, William Evans and William Hotchkiss, for burglaries. The six latter are reprieved; and William Williams, Edward Edwards and Sarah Davies, left for execution - Joseph Owen, for receiving a copper tea-kettle, knowing it to be stolen was ordered to be transported for 14 years . . . . . [Jon] … I have previously encountered the Shrewsbury Chronicle account, which was reproduced (as still happens in modern times) in The British Chronicle or Pugh’s Hereford Journal, March 31. http://www.executedtoday.com/…/1785-three-at-shrewsbury-in…/ What disturbed me most about that article was the reported execution, on March 26, of Sarah Davies for house-breaking. Whilst Mary's connection with the Griffith Davies family of the Diddlebury Parish is speculative and unproven, that family comprised of four daughters, Ann, Mary, Sarah and Suzanne. It is horrific to contemplate that Mary had to deal not only with her own conviction, but possibly the brutal death of a sister. We know that an Ann Davies was Mary's co-accused, and that Mary's first and eighth grandchildren were name Susannah. Names DO run in families. Also evidenced by the article is the confirmation of the reprieve of Mary and others, which undermines a date in December which is touted elsewhere by other researchers. NOR was this the first criminal enterprise for these Davies/Davis women …. From the Crown Minute Books ASSI 2/4 at Kew Archives .... Mary Davis and Ann Davis: for feloniously stealing seven linsey aprons value 6/- one pair of woollen stockings value 2/- goods of Edward Bowen; two woollen bedgowns value 2/-; one linsey petticoat value 2/- goods of Sarah Cound[?] on 30 November 25 George 3 [1784?] at the Parish of Diddlebury. The 31 March article concludes .... The hangings took place on March 26. I wonder if these bodies, similarly to those executed on the 18th, were also delivered to the surgeons to be anatomized. Jonathan Heppell
Founding Member · March 18 at 6:23 PM There is very strong circumstantial evidence that Charlotte bore a 10th child, Ellen Eve, in late 1835, to yet another partner, convict William Arrand (recorded as Allen), a fact that has eluded many researchers. The following documentation speaks loudly of Ellen's close connection with Charlotte's family…. Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 FHL Film Number: 993956 Name: Ellen Eve Allen Gender: Female Baptism Age: 10 Birth Date: 24 Dec 1835 Baptism Date: 18 Jan 1846 Baptism Place: Richmond, New South Wales, Australia Father: William Allen Mother: Charlotte Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Name: Margaret E Allsop Spouse: William Madden Date: (05/09/)1848 ** Place: Richmond NSW (St Peters CoE **) Year: 1848 Number: V18481289 (Witnesses: John Madden and Ellen E Anand (of Kurrajong) ** ** additional detail from transcription (M/L Reel SAG 148) provided by fellow researchers Carla Cotter and Marilyn Mason. Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Name: Ellen E Arrand Spouse: William Ryan Date: (15/12/)1852 Place: Windsor NSW (Kurrajong) Year: 1852 Number: V1852587 98/1852 (Father: William Arrand; a settler at Kurrajong ** Witnesses: Richard and Eliza Shrimpton **) ** additional detail provided by fellow researcher Vickey Cubis Baptism register of St. Matthew's Roman Catholic Church, Windsor, N.S.W., 1862-1874 [microform] Bib ID 6103606 Format Microform, Manuscript Author St. Matthew's Catholic Church (Windsor, N.S.W.) Access Conditions Available for information and research. Description [1862-1874] 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. Series Society of Australian Genealogists (Series) ; SAG 0206. Summary Register of baptisms ministered at St Matthew's Catholic Church, Windsor, New South Wales, 15 July, 1862-4 February, 1874, with one baptism on 2 January, 1862, and three conditional baptisms * recorded at front of the volume * After the 1874 baptism entries, there is the following notation in different handwriting. “January 2nd 1862 Ellen Ryan (nee Arrand**) , Lia Mahoney (nee Shrimpton**) and Margaret Elizabeth Madden (nee Allsop**) were baptised conditionally by P. Hallinan, Windsor.” There is a notation at the top of the page commencing 1863. “ADULTS ? Ellen Ryan, Lia Mahoney, Margaret Elizabeth Madden” (Transcription provided by Carla Cotter/Marilyn Mason) ** maiden names added by Jonathan. |
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